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Nathan Slake's avatar

Soo excited to see this happening. Not only is it great to return to a book and reread it in depth and think about plot, characters, wordlbuilding etc, but perhaps more so it's because this has all come about and is fuelled by the community aspect of Substack (and your initiation, Claudia). Four people who didn't know each other this time last year, come together to work on a little project in their spare time and share it online. It's so great :)

Claudia Befu's avatar

Yes, I still remember us emailing back and forth about this in July. Honestly, it would've most certainly stayed an idea without you and Alexander. So thank you both for pushing this forward. It's a joy having everyone so excited! But I must admit that I'm starting to feel the pressure now. I hope that I can rise to the occasion. 😅

Nathan Slake's avatar

You mean you haven't already written and submitted your 10,000 word essay to Alexander for Book I? I sent mine in this morning ...

😆

Seriously, though, I'm sure that collectively we can offer something of interesting, and if nothing more it'll be a place to spark discussion from those who are reading it the first time to those who've reread it multiple times.

Claudia Befu's avatar

You'll for sure submit your 10,000 word essay before me! 🤣

I honestly want to have a good time reading and talking about the book with everyone involved whether reading or writing with us. Is this enough?

Nathan Slake's avatar

100% enough ☺

Alexander Ipfelkofer's avatar

100% enough! Now... chop chop! The Spice... ;)

Pierre Guidry's avatar

Count me in! I too have read the Dune Collection ( I once referred to them as the‘ Chronicles’ ) one time , and the first 3, the Trilogy, a few times. IMO, what separates Frank Herbert from his contemporaries was the construction of the narrative with psychology, sociology, and culture having greater weight than technology and some mythical evolution of Human kind as a basis for the story. He was like no other.

I look forward to reading these great stories again and sharing with you all the wonderment that accompanies them!

Claudia Befu's avatar

Welcome to our pop-up book & movie club! I also love that, despite the cool technology, Dune is about everything else than technology. I remember reading somewhere that the future will not be about technology, it will be about life in a world with technology, meaning that the technology is in the background because it's part of everyday life. This is where Frank Herbert imagined the future more accurately than the rest.

Alexander Ipfelkofer's avatar

Great to have you aboard, Pierre! Dune has prevailed over the centuries and I wager the new movies will only add to its growth!

Stephen A. Davis's avatar

I LOVE this idea! I’ve been a Dune fan since I was a child though I’ve never read all of the book 🤣 My journey to Arrakis was rather odd as it started with the 1984 adaptation as a child, then I got into the PC game Dune 2 and became obsessed with the world. I’m definitely up for this!

Claudia Befu's avatar

Also, welcome on board! 🤗 Excited to read your notes about Dune!

Claudia Befu's avatar

Your first introduction to Dune was David Lynch's adaptation? 🫠

Nathan Slake's avatar

Snap! Dune 2 was one of the first PC games that really hooked me. Those early RTS days. Good times.

Alexander Ipfelkofer's avatar

Awesome, Stephen! I, too, went through my dune phase in the 80s! Time to revisit! I posted a screenshot of an Ornithopter from the game in our Discord chat the other day, as a comparison to Denis's version. Glad to have you aboard!

David Sheley's avatar

Let's do this! I've been meaning to read Dune for years and this seems like the right time to jump in and get it done. I love science fiction, and I don't mind reading a little hard sci-fi here and there. Gotta exercise that gray matter!

Claudia Befu's avatar

I like the enthusiasm, this is the way to go into this! We're staring on the 15.11. But feel free to start anytime. The deadline for the first book (or part I) is 15.12. Enjoy the reading!

David Sheley's avatar

I may have to jump in a little early. I read at about the same speed that I type - slow. 😂

Claudia Befu's avatar

The important thing is to read! The spice must flow.

Nathan Slake's avatar

I'm a mega slow reader, too, so don't worry. If you're a little ahead or behind when the posts drop, they're always going to be there for reference.

Claudia Befu's avatar

How do you mean you're a mega slow reader? How many books did you read this year?

Nathan Slake's avatar

Not enough ... 😉

Claudia Befu's avatar

Hmm, I wonder what 'not enough' means for you...

Susan Earlam's avatar

Same

Claudia Befu's avatar

There's always the audio version. Don't forget to stop after Book I (which is part I of III of the first book of Dune; now I'm confused myself)

Susan Earlam's avatar

Hahahaha what? 😂😂😂 Yeah good point RE audio. I'll have a look 👍🏼

Claudia Befu's avatar

It's a good alternative.

Alexander Ipfelkofer's avatar

Excellent! Glad to have you, David!

Nathan Slake's avatar

Awesome! Glad to have you on the journey, David.

David Sheley's avatar

Thank you for having me!

Claudia Befu's avatar

It's our pleasure!

Brian Funke's avatar

Very fun! I just reread this book earlier this year, and I think I may just have to rereread!

Claudia Befu's avatar

That's great! Like this it's going to be fresh in your memory when you watch the film.

Alexander Ipfelkofer's avatar

Ahh, we have an expert among us! Most splendid. Will keep us on our toes and in check, then! Glad to have you aboard, Brian!

Claudia Befu's avatar

How do you mean an expert? Did I miss something?

Alexander Ipfelkofer's avatar

anyone who rerereads! :)

Nathan Slake's avatar

You can be the expert in the comments telling us what we *should* have said, Brian 😉

Brian Funke's avatar

Lol, no shoulding allowed!

Nathan Slake's avatar

Hehehe.

Charlotte Dune's avatar

Very cool! Read it not too long ago, so I won’t participate, but love the idea! I want to do this kind of read along with the Three Body Problem since the new show is coming out soon on Netflix and this is inspiring me even more to organize that! It’s also sort of climate science-fiction, or has some elements of that genre.

Claudia Befu's avatar

This is the second time I hear of the Three Body Problem today. I don't know what it is 😳 but if it's for reading I'm in! When do you plan to do that?

Charlotte Dune's avatar

Thinking January or Feb. The Netflix release date just got announced for March 21. It’s a very popular book, especially in China, that you will probably continue to hear about. I first read it because I saw Obama blurbed it while he was still president, and I was like, what book on earth gets a blurb from the president?!

Claudia Befu's avatar

Wow, now that's a recommendation. Well, count me in! Looking forward to your announcement post.

Charlotte Dune's avatar

❤️❤️🙏🙏

Charlotte Dune's avatar

And there are actually four books in the series, if you include a final book written by a fan, which many still include. So I also need to consider if I’m just going to do the first book or maybe the first two. All of them would be a lot.

There is also a 40 hour Chinese Tv version already out which I watched and loved! lol I’m a super fan of the series.

Claudia Befu's avatar

This is amazing! Will each Netflix season be based on a book? You could read each book before the season is released.

Does the Chinese show have subtitles? where did you find it?

Charlotte Dune's avatar

Netflix hasn’t revealed that yet. I’m sure it will depend on if the show is successful. Already seems they have made some alterations to characters. It’s produced by the same people who made Game of Thrones though, so expectations are high.

The Chinese show does have subtitles and it’s on YouTube on Tencent’s channel. Only thing is it also has annoying commercials, but I still watched it. It was very faithful to the first book and only did the first one, so 40 hours for just one book. Pretty wild.

Claudia Befu's avatar

40h for only one book? That's a lot! But huge hit with fans as everyone likes long form content these days.

I feel like this is the discovery of the day. Thank you, Charlotte!

Nathan Slake's avatar

Didn't know that! Wow.

Nathan Slake's avatar

As Charlotte said, it's majorly popular in China. Liu Cixin is the top SciFi writer in China, I believe. The book is very clever and philosophically deep. I think you'd enjoy it.

Claudia Befu's avatar

I had no idea. And it seems like I'm the only one. I'm starting to feel slightly ashamed.

Nathan Slake's avatar

Nothing to be ashamed of at all. If anything, going in fresh without any prior knowledge of it is a good thing.

(Thing is, though, you'd have to briefly return to Netflix if you want to watch the series ...!)

Claudia Befu's avatar

This is my dilemma. I only want to read the books. Netflix and especially a series doesn't come into question for me. At least not in the foreseeable future. I might change my mind at some point. But not yet.

Nathan Slake's avatar

Totally fair enough. I can heartily recommend the first book. Whenever you get to it, let me know, because that'll spur me on to then read the second one. I'm hoping I can play catch up a bit with my reading over December/January, and try to sort out a sort of priority list of reads.

Nathan Slake's avatar

I watched the trailer the other day and I'm very excited! I've only read the first book of Three Body Problem, but it was wild and creative and insane and clever and trippy and ... the trailer seems to have captured a lot of that.

Alexander Ipfelkofer's avatar

Three Body Problem! Yes! Let's hope the series will be good! Trailer looks great.

Susan Earlam's avatar

I'm so, so tempted by this. I've just signed up to read Wolf Hall on here, that starts in 2024 so...

I've never read this but absolutely LOVED the film and I've even even the David Lynch version... Do I get points taken off or added for that?! 🤣😅🪱

Claudia Befu's avatar

You get 1000 extra points 🏆 for watching the whole David Lynch version!

Join us, join us, join us! I promise we'll make it as fun as we can!

Susan Earlam's avatar

I'm just locating a second hand copy. Let's hope it gets here quickly.

Claudia Befu's avatar

Send a thopter ✈ to pick it up!

Susan Earlam's avatar

🤣

Alexander Ipfelkofer's avatar

Lynch and Denis version have both their place! Ah, you must join us, Susan. The Spice Must Flow! :)

Susan Earlam's avatar

I'm just downloading the audio book!

Michael Scott Shappe's avatar

He who controls the spice controls the Universe.

Claudia Befu's avatar

And we must fulfil our melange quotas.

Alexander Ipfelkofer's avatar

Having one Melange right now!

Taegan MacLean's avatar

Amazing! Really looking forward to the crew’s take on the book. No one more equipped to do this book justice. I’ll dust off my copy and follow along.

Claudia Befu's avatar

That's great, Taegan, so happy to have you on board! 🤗 I'm looking forward to your notes. I hope that our Letters from Arrakis will do the book justice. At least, we're enthusiastic about reading it! 😅

Alexander Ipfelkofer's avatar

Excellent, Taegan!

Jack Fitzgerald's avatar

I just finished the serialized Dracula Daily. Would love to do something similar with Dune!

Claudia Befu's avatar

Dracula? Are you talking about my uncle? (Just a bad joke since I'm Romanian 😅)

Happy to have you onboard! There are no vampires on Dune this is the only minus point for Frank Herbert, but hey, nobody is perfect!

Alexander Ipfelkofer's avatar

Excellent! Read with us, Jack. Happy to have you.

Alexander Ipfelkofer's avatar

You've been to Arrakis! 😅 I brought back some sand when I was in Egypt in the 90s. Took an empty film roll and filled it with Spice, err sand. Excited to dive deep, thumpers to max, the Spice Must Flow!

Claudia Befu's avatar

I used to go places. 🤣

Wow, so much love for the sand. Did it also inspire your Samuel Carter series with its Egyptian motives? The copters will fly, the melange quotas will be filled under your supervision, we're ready!

Alexander Ipfelkofer's avatar

I still have the sand! Egypt and the places I visited certainly inspired parts of Carter, but also Indonesia (another location in the Carterverse). And yes, I need all those silos filled to the brim! The Spice Must Flow! 😁

Claudia Befu's avatar

You're a cruel master! We shall oblige!

Indonesia you say? I need to catch up with Carter! He's moving too fast.

Alexander Ipfelkofer's avatar

Carter Part 2 is due for Christmas, you have time, between spiced wine and melange ;)

Claudia Befu's avatar

I will make sure to take some time and a nice spiced tea and read along.

Alexander Ipfelkofer's avatar

and Nürnberger Elisen Lebkuchen for me :)

Susan Earlam's avatar

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I'm getting responses to my earlier comment threaded under the comment. But when I go to respond it says comments have been limited on this post, so I'm not being rude, I'm trying to respond to the conversation but can't 🫠🫣

Claudia Befu's avatar

Oh, I’m not sure who limited the comments on the post but it wasn’t me. Let me figure out if I can change anything in the settings…

Claudia Befu's avatar

Hi Susan, I checked everything and did some tests but it works for me. Are you getting this issue when you try to reply to this article or this one?

https://vanessaglau.substack.com/p/letters-from-arrakis-part-one

Thank you!

Susan Earlam's avatar

I can reply here. Will try my original comment. Thanks 🙏🏻

E. A. Fareman's avatar

"doesn’t Timothée Chalamet look like Charlie Chaplin when he wears a stillsuit?"

Omigoodness, I hadn't noticed that before but now I can't unsee it!!! 😂

Anyway, as I said to Nathan this sounds like fun! Can't wait to see your thoughts on the book!! 🥳 Especially as it's one I've never been able to get through!

Claudia Befu's avatar

Finally, someone sees what I see! 🤣 I was beginning to doubt the associations my brain makes.

How come you've never been able to get through the book?

E. A. Fareman's avatar

I get to the desert and I just get stuck. I’ve tried six times, and I just can’t push through. It’s been long enough at this point since I’ve tried that I’m really not sure why. Not finishing a book is very unusual for me too—I’m an English major and have read lots of books I didn’t enjoy, so it’s not that. The only other book I can’t get through like Dune is Neuromancer. Maybe there’s a connection? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Claudia Befu's avatar

I read Neuromancer as well. I understand why it's hard to get through. 80s sci-fi was written in a pretty annoying style. I finished the book but the author lost me in many scenes with the storytelling style.

But Dune... I actually love it when it gets to the desert part... 🤣

E. A. Fareman's avatar

You can enjoy the desert part for me!!! 😖😁

Claudia Befu's avatar

I'll write you a letter from Arrakis 😜

Johnathan Reid's avatar

I'm afraid I'm going to be more of a hitchhiker than a voyager for this (so more like clinging onto the outside of a train or jumping into a cargo wagon than travelling in the passenger carriage). But I will watch, read the letters and follow this collaboration with keen interest. I think this kind of activity is what Substack can catalyse so well.

Claudia Befu's avatar

So basically you're saying that you are not going to read with us?

Johnathan Reid's avatar

Yes. (You'd make a good editor 😛.)

Claudia Befu's avatar

I would like to be an editor. Unfortunately, English is not my mother tongue...

Johnathan Reid's avatar

It's hard to tell!

Claudia Befu's avatar

I feel flattered. I thank ChatGPT. Just kidding. I use Grammarly. It helps a lot.

Harley King's avatar

I have read Dune at least 3 times. It is on my list of favorite novels. I have read the others in the series. The first is the best. The second is the worst. The movie in the 1980s was terrible. This new version is much better. I will join you in the reading.

Claudia Befu's avatar

Welcome to the club! That's really cool. I could never finish the '80s version of the film, the Harkonnens were too grotesque. Also the Bene Geserit. I'm happy with the 2021 version as well. Did you watch the documentary about Alejandro Jodorowsky's attempt at producing Dune in the '70s?

Harley King's avatar

No, I have not seen the documentary!

Claudia Befu's avatar

Oh, you'll enjoy it! He spent 1 year in Europe creating a story book with great artists and drawing the entire film scene-by-scene in that book. The film never got made but the art he created went on to inspire some of the most iconic films in Hollywood such as Star Wars and Alien. He even managed to cast Salvador Dali in the role of the emperor. It's a wild story!

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Claudia Befu's avatar

Let's see how this reading goes. We might continue with the rest of the saga if there's interest.

Thanks for all the suggestions and hints. You seem to be a way better informed about the Duniverse than I am ! 🤣